Time…

So, I contemplated ‘time’; what is a ‘day’? Easy to ‘figure’ that out, one rising and setting of the sun. As we have shared, there was no ‘time’ before Creation. After death, there is no ‘time’; we are Created and brought into existence, each spirit for a cause. Many never realize that ’cause’, others do; in our going out and coming in, may The Lord be glorified, Amen

We look at and move to understand text from time past…

The Earth takes approximately 365.25 daysto go around the Sun, yet our calendar year is 365 days. … Every 4 years, we have a leapyear to add another day to the calendar to make up for the 4 missing quarters. In those leap years, a year lasts 366 days, and not the usual 365.

We may have not been cognizant of how a ‘year’ is counted/calculated. Since the Earth and other planets came into being, our ‘year’ here on Earth is measured in revolutions around the sun.
In the ‘seen’ there is ‘Time’ measured by Earth’s path on Earth.

As we have shared a ‘year’ is different on every planet. Just as in the ‘unseen’ there is no time. This gets complex, but is simple! If we are not here, ‘time’ ceases to exist, what we consider ‘time’ is the setting and rising of the sun.
Question:
If and where The Light is God’s presence which NEVER wanes…
Jesus IS The Light of the world! Not Earth solely but ‘existence.’
John 8:12
We are in totality given The grace to see, to feel, to breath…to live…
The Seven gifts of the Holy Spirit is an enumeration of seven spiritual gifts originating from patristic authors, later elaborated by five intellectual virtues and four other groups of ethical characteristics. They are: wisdom, understanding, counsel, fortitude, knowledge, piety, and fear of the Lord.

But you, as a person dedicated to God, keep away from all that. Instead pursue righteousness, godliness, faithfulness, love, endurance, and gentleness. Compete well for the faith and lay hold of that eternal life you were called for and made your good confession for in the presence of many witnesses. I charge you before God who gives life to all things and Christ Jesus who made his good confession before Pontius Pilate, to obey this command without fault or failure until the appearing of our Lord Jesus Christ—whose appearing the blessed and only Sovereign, the King of kings and Lord of lords, will reveal at the right time. He alone possesses immortality and lives in unapproachable light, whom no human has ever seen or is able to see. To him be honor and eternal power! Amen.
1 Timothy 6:11-16

Do you believe the Bible is true?

Do you believe Genesis is accurate as far as the numbers of years that it mentions?

Do you believe that Adam lived 930 years and that Methuselah lived 969 years?

Well, here’s a verse in Genesis that most people should have little or no problem with:

“Then the Lord said, “My Spirit will not contend with man forever, for he is mortal; his days will be a hundred and twenty years.” (Gen. 6:3)

If we can accept 120 years as a logical maximum lifespan in Genesis 6
…then do you think they would have used a completely DIFFERENT measurement for years in Genesis 5 (just ONE CHAPTER before), when it says, “Altogether, Methuselah lived 969 years, and then he died” (Gen. 5:27)?
(Not to mention the long years of everyone else mentioned in Genesis 5!)

Do you think that in Chapter 5, years did not really mean years, as we know them today, but in Chapter 6 they DID? How preposterous is that?!

Now, in Chapter 7, it gives VERY PRECISE measurements of time:

“In the six hundredth year of Noah’s life, on the seventeenth day of the second month–on that day all the springs of the great deep burst forth, and the floodgates of the heavens were opened. And rain fell on the earth forty days and forty nights.” (Gen. 7:11-12)

If its precise enough to mention the EXACT day of the EXACT month, and the EXACT number of days and nights that the rain fell, then must it not also be precise when it says “the six hundredth year of Noah’s life”?

If time measurement is precise and exact in the SECOND part of the verse, must it not ALSO be precise and exact in the FIRST part of the verse?

Some people say, “Well, to God, a thousand years is as a day, so therefore, the 6 DAYS of Creation must actually be MILLIONS of years.”

If the years in Genesis 5 are really not as long as it says concerning men’s ages (i.e., “Altogether, Methuselah lived 969 years, and then he died” in Gen. 5:27), then the days of Creation in Genesis 1 and 2 must actually be MINUTES or SECONDS!

Contrarily, if the days of Creation in Genesis 1 and 2 are actually thousands or millions of years, then the years of men’s ages in Genesis 5 must actually bethousands or millions of years, times 365 days for each year!

Therefore, if the 6 days of Creation was actually 6 million years (as Long-Day Creationists—otherwise known as Theological Evolutionists—tend to believe), then Methuselah must have actually lived for…let’s see…if 1 day = 1 million years…and there are 365 days in a year…and it says that Methuselah lived for 969 years…then 365 X 969 = 353,685…soooo….Methuselah must ACTUALLY, then, have died at the age of 353,685 million years old!

WOW!!! People who believe that God created the universe over a period of millions of years must have a LOT of faith!…more faith than I have, because I could never believe that people lived to be hundreds of thousands of millions of years old back then!

And for those who believe that Methuselah’s 969 years is actually SHORTER…more like 69 years…then they must also believe that God created the entire universe in 6 MINUTES, OR EVEN 6 SECONDS, NOT 6 days!!

Now, did you know that the Bible is NOT the ONLY source that talks about people living for incredibly long periods of time back then??

Check THIS out:

“This view was well represented in a work called the Sumerian King List.”

“The Sumerian King List contains lists of royal names, cities, and amazingly long reigns for each king before the Flood. After the flood, the reigns are shorter, but still hundreds of years in length.”

“This composition, originally compiled just before 2100 BC, purported to list all the kings of all dynasties ruling all Sumer from the beginning. Its opening words read “When the kingship was lowered from Heaven, the kingship was in Eridu” and it then goes on to name two kings in Eridu who between them reigned 64,800 years.”

“A similar list is found in Ashurbanipal’s library that has 9 kings reigning 352,800 years.”

But is the Sumerian King List the ONLY extra-biblical [outside the Bible] document that refers to people living for incredibly long periods of time back then?

Let’s see how MANY extra-biblical documents refer to long-lived kings before the flood:

“There is the Sumerian King List (the oldest list). There are about a dozen copies of this in existence, with the oldest being dated around 2100 BC.”

“The Lagash King List, from the city of Lagash in Sumer, not only gives long lifespans, but also adds that life was much ‘slower’–people were children for much longer periods of time–100 years (cf. how the biblical pre-flood patriarchs had their firstborn children very late). It is interesting how this 100-year childhood is the same period used by Hesiod in describing his “golden race.”

“A similar list is found in the beginning of a world-chronicle in the library of Assurbanipal (seventh century BC).”

“Another pre-flood king list shows up in from Uruk (also in Sumer, about 50 miles west of Lagish). In addition to the seven kings, there are seven ‘sages’ associated with them.”

“Finally, there is the Hellenistic priest Berossus, who migrated from Babylon to Greece, and wrote a three volume work on the historical background of Babylon. In this work, he gave the king list and also gave the names of the sages associated with them.”

“So, there are numerous extra-biblical references to allegedly long lifetimes before the Flood.”

“It is also important to note in the continuation of the King List, that AFTER the Flood, the lifespans drop by an order of magnitude, with NO ‘tapering off’ at all! And then they drop off again, by another order of magnitude, to arrive at kingly lifetimes of more ‘normal’ measures.” (which fits with the biblical record of God announcing, after the Flood, that man’s lifespan will be shorter.)

Now, let’s look for a moment at three facts about Enmeduranki of Sippar [one of the ‘Kings’ mentioned in the Kings List]:

One, among the Babylonians and Assyrians, he was regarded as the Father of Soothsaying. He had some prophetic capability.

Two, his sage Utuabzu (or he himself, if they are identical) was said to have “ascended to heaven” in several Sumerian incantation texts.

Three, this king is “seventh” from the top.

Now for some rampant speculation:

The ante-diluvian [before the Flood] Enoch of the Bible was said to :

1. …have been a prophet (Jude 14: “Enoch, the seventh from Adam, prophesied about these men: “)
2. …have “ascended into heaven” (Heb 11.5: “By faith Enoch was taken from this life, so that he did not experience death; he could not be found, because God had taken him away. ” and Gen 5.24: “Enoch walked with God; then he was no more, because God took him away.”).
3. …have been “seventh from Adam” (Jude 14:”Enoch, the seventh from Adam…”).”

“Each of these three points are also amply demonstrated by the extra-biblical writings of pre-Christian Israel.”

“The general consensus of scholarship is that the two accounts derive from a common ‘ancestor.’ But which version (biblical or other) would ‘look like’ the more likely to be closer to the source?

First, let’s note that the Sumerian version is more elaborate, more ‘spectacular’, more miraculous, and more complex than the biblical version. The surprisingly long life spans in the Bible (i.e. hundreds of years) are DWARFED by the tens of thousands of years in the Sumerian list! The Sumerian heroes of each period are twofold–a king AND a sage–instead of a single leadership figure as in the OT.

Then, let’s note that the structure of the pattern matches. Before the Flood, there are very long lifetimes; immediately after the Flood, lifetimes are shorter but ‘tapering off’; and soon, lifespans are at ‘normal’. The exaggerated numbers of the Sumerian accounts follow this pattern, but make much more abrupt jumps than the smooth decline we see in the Bible.”

“Summary: The extra-biblical stories of the ante-diluvian kings/sages are well-attested by archeology and conform to the basic structure, pattern, and themes of the biblical version. The similarities between the 7th king and Enoch, “seventh from Adam” are striking and suggestive. A comparison of the relative complexity of biblical and extra-biblical accounts would initially lead one to believe that the biblical version was the MORE authentic of the two, given the standard methodological principles of comparative ANE [Ancient Near East] literature.”

We have ‘time’ here on Earth, when we are we go beyond ‘time’ ceases! We merely exist where our decision in life has placed is/places us.

The simple definition of death is separation. Jesus and the Father are One and that knowledge was with Jesus throughout His life here on Earth – John 17:11.

We have followed a ‘few’ trends. Know this, time is ONLY here on Earth. In space, astronauts have to set their ‘time’.
International Space Station crews experience a sunset or a sunrise every 45 minutes. … With so much scope for chronological confusion, it’s no wonder that the ISS needs to be locked to a consistent time. The zone of choice is Coordinated Universal Time (UTC), which is equivalent to GMT.

Once again, we know that ‘time’ is different in ‘existences’, even here on Earth, there are regions that only by setting ‘time’ to a known measurement are any semblance of ‘life’ maintained. The Royal Observatory in Greenwich, England, is the key location for timekeeping worldwide. It is also located at the internationally recognized prime meridian, which is 0 degrees longitude, where each day begins at midnight.

Which country has longest day in the world?

Meanwhile, Reykjavik’s longest day in the summer, on June 21, is 21 hours and 45 minutes long. With a latitude of about 64 degrees north, Reykjavik is the northernmost capital on our planet, with the shortest hours of daylight during the winter and the longest hours in the summer.

https://m.accuweather.com/en/weather-news/five-world-capitals-shortest-daylight/41734413

Here, there is ‘time’, when we ‘die’ a physical death, there is no ‘time’.
To understand this concept further we can read: The parable of the rich man and Lazarus (also called the Dives and Lazarus or Lazarus and Dives) is a well-known parable of Jesus appearing in the Gospel of Luke. The Gospel of Luke (Luke 16:19–31) tells of the relationship, during life and after death, between an unnamed rich man and a poor beggar named Lazarus.

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