If there is a long hallway, easier to run to get to the end, we one day watch someone slip and fall, get hurt bad. We then know that running is a bad idea. It in that case needn’t be told. We learn.
Again, there is little knowledge on the ‘age’ Adam. Just the same as we discussed the ‘age’ of Lucifer/Satan and the Angel’s. We have come to the knowledge that after this life, there is no ‘time.’ You are where you are. Amazingly, even if you believe in Nirvana, another life/rebirth. Your acts here determine where you are going to be.
For a second, I will contemplate the ‘actuality’ that a follow through ‘existence’ exists here on Earth. We are supposed to learn by our actions. Nowhere in The Bible does it say what Adam or Eve’s ‘mistakes’ were before they made THE error and ended existence as it was meant to be.
It raises a point; “do angels ‘trip’?” The clear answer is “No.” They exist in the spiritual form, different from the physical world that we exist in. BUT, decisions are made. We all have a spirit that meditates on the wrong or right of a situation.
We will take a little walk back to where in existence Lucifer stepped off The path. Lucifer was placed above all the angel’s
The story of Lucifer’s fall is described in two key Old Testament chapters—Ezekiel 28 and Isaiah 14. Let’s briefly look at both of these.
It would seem from the context of Ezekiel 28 that the first ten verses of this chapter are dealing with a human leader. Then, starting in verse 11 and on through verse 19, Lucifer is the focus of discussion.
What is the rationale for the conclusion that these latter verses refer to the fall of Lucifer? Whereas the first ten verses in this chapter speak about the ruler of Tyre (who was condemned for claiming to be a god though he was just a man), the discussion moves to the king of Tyre starting in verse 11. Many scholars believe that though there was a human “ruler” of Tyre, the real “king” of Tyre was Satan, for it was he who was ultimately at work in this anti-God city and it was he who worked through the human ruler of the city.
Some have suggested that these verses may actually be dealing with a human king of Tyre who was empowered by Satan. Perhaps the historic king of Tyre was a tool of Satan, possibly even indwelt by him. In describing this king, Ezekiel also gives us glimpses of the superhuman creature, Satan, who was using, if not indwelling, him.
Now, there are things that are true of this “king” that—at least ultimately—cannot be said to be true of human beings. For example, the king is portrayed as having a different nature from man (he is a cherub, verse 14); he had a different position from man (he was blameless and sinless, verse 15); he was in a different realm from man (the holy mount of God, verses 13,14); he received a different judgment from man (he was cast out of the mountain of God and thrown to the earth, verse 16); and the superlatives used to describe him don’t seem to fit that of a normal human being (“full of wisdom,” “perfect in beauty,” and having “the seal of perfection,” verse 12 NASB).
Our text tells us that this king was a created being and left the creative hand of God in a perfect state (Ezekiel 28:12,15). And he remained perfect in his ways until iniquity was found in him (verse 15b). What was this iniquity? We read in verse 17, “Your heart became proud on account of your beauty, and you corrupted your wisdom because of your splendor.” Lucifer apparently became so impressed with his own beauty, intelligence, power, and position that he began to desire for himself the honor and glory that belonged to God alone. The sin that corrupted Lucifer was self-generated pride.
Apparently, this represents the actual beginning of sin in the universe—preceding the fall of the human Adam by an indeterminate time. Sin originated in the free will of Lucifer in which—with full understanding of the issues involved—he chose to rebel against the Creator.
This mighty angelic being was rightfully judged by God: “I threw you to the earth” (Ezekiel 28:18). This doesn’t mean that Satan had no further access to heaven, for other Scripture verses clearly indicate that Satan maintained this access even after his fall (Job 1:6-12; Zechariah 3:1,2). However, Ezekiel 28:18 indicates that Satan was absolutely and completely cast out of God’s heavenly government and his place of authority (Luke 10:18).
Isaiah 14:12-17 is another Old Testament passage that may refer to the fall of Lucifer. We must be frank in admitting that some Bible scholars see no reference whatsoever to Lucifer in this passage. It is argued that the being mentioned in this verse is referred to as a man (Isaiah 14:16); is compared with other kings on the earth (verse 18); and the words, “How you have fallen from heaven” (verse 12), is alleged to refer to a fall from great political heights.
To step right back into our thread; God DID live this life! Not only this life, but as the step-Son of a carpenter (a role that was not lofty in any way, shape and/or form.)
“Isn’t this the carpenter, the son of Mary, and the brother of James, Joses, Judas, and Simon?” Mark 6:3 CSB
“Isn’t this the carpenter’s son? Isn’t His mother called Mary, and His brothers James, Joseph, Simon, and Judas?” Matthew 13:55 CSB
In Justin Martyr’s (AD 100-165) work, Dialogue with Trypho, chapter 88, he writes this:
And when Jesus came to the Jordan, He was considered to be the son of Joseph the carpenter; and He appeared without comeliness, as the Scriptures declared; and He was deemed a carpenter (for He was in the habit of working as a carpenter when among men, making ploughs and yokes; by which He taught the symbols of righteousness and an active life)
We so many times, as we should stick to primary gospel books. In reading asunder, I was chanced to read:
Infancy Gospel of Thomas, Greek Text A, chapter VIII:
Now his father was a carpenter and made at that time ploughs and yokes. And there was required of him a bed by a certain rich man, that he should make it for him. And whereas one beam, that which is called the shifting one was too short and Joseph knew not what to do, the young child Jesus said to his father Joseph: Lay down the two pieces of wood and make them even at the end next unto thee. And Joseph did as the young child said unto him. And Jesus stood at the other end and took hold upon the shorter beam and stretched it and made it equal with the other. And his father Joseph saw it and marveled: and he embraced the young child and kissed him, saying: Happy am I for that God hath given me this young child.
Again, we are focused on Adam and Eve, what was not said. God’s story is never ending…no beginning, no end! And that is the way it is! We got carried away with researching the growing up of Jesus, and we were led there by the existence of Adam.
Prior to The Creation of Eve – a part of Adam, in essence, his other half. To name everything, plant, animal, fruit…what period of ‘time’ did it take?
Periodically, there are bursts of articles about Adam and Eve. What does the Bible say about them? What was the historical Adam like? Did he even exist? What does genetics indicate about our first parents? Unfortunately, many conclude that Adam and Eve are myths; nothing more than characters in a fictional story. But Jesus and Paul believed they were real people, and they didn’t hesitate to base key doctrines on what Genesis tells us about Adam and Eve.
The Bible is clear that Adam had no human parents—Luke calls him the son of God because of this (Luke 3:38). In the Old Testament, the angels are called ‘sons of God’ for the same reason—they are direct creations of God. On Day 6 after creating the land animals, God created Adam from dust then breathed life into him (Genesis 2:7). From the beginning, unlike animals (and angels), human beings were a mixture of physical and spiritual attributes. This made Adam fundamentally different from all the animals that God created, which is why none of them were suitable as companions for Adam. Naming the animals was a great object lesson for Adam to show him that he needed someone like himself, not animals. Up until now in the creation account, every time God saw something, it was good, but for the first time, God sees something that isn’t good—Adam is alone. Creation is incomplete. This doesn’t mean that God didn’t foresee the need for a companion for Adam; it just means that now, when Adam realizes his need, God is going to do something about it.
In the first-ever ‘surgery’, God removed a rib from Adam’s side and from it He created a woman, who Adam named Eve. When Adam saw her for the first time, he recognized that she was not like the animals—she was a person like him. And Genesis affirms that like men, women are fully created in the image of God (Genesis 1:26–27).
The Bible states that Eve was created to be Adam’s ‘helper’ (Hebrew ‘ezer’). While this is sometimes criticized as promoting the view that women are chattels, this isn’t the force of the word at all. Indeed, the Old Testament uses the same word when it describes God as a ‘helper’ (for instance, Exodus 18:4, Psalm 33:20; 115:9, Hosea 13:9). The idea is that women are equal in spiritual status to men and fulfill a critical role, without which humanity cannot function.
To revert back to our opening line “God Who knows all, sent a Part of Him to set the Earth aright!” Amen. In The Bible, we see so many references to the ‘sons’ of God, His creations. BUT, there was and is ONLY One The Son of God, Amen
From Him, He was made. We see that Jesus THE Son of God was sent on a mission to change The World. He did! I tried to research the salary of a carpenter back in Jesus’ day, and was not able to pinpoint exactly what was made in income. But, it was enough to survive on. We even in research found that Jesus performed ‘miracles’ in His youth. I will state one thing though. IF the material he worked on was more than ‘material’, it would sell for billions today. But, that is and was not His goal! Salvation was and is!
God, in Essence of a part of Him came down to Earth and 2000+ years later, still has the same effect as He did then. There are believers, there are unbelievers who will do/say/feel what they ‘think’ they have to do/say/feel to get their point across.
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