What is The presence of The Lord? Here in body, we dream as our spirits are spoken to in the form of The Essence of God.
We can look back at His-story and see how God communicated with person through the ages.
Dreams are misunderstood by many. Let us take a ‘shallow’ look at our lives. Memories, hopes and what? This says so very much! Where are you going? Hope. What do you have? Dreams. It is amazing that many are not aware of the sheer magnitude of dreams. The subconscious.
For this reason it is minimized in existence! A ‘dream’? Most leave it at that! To have a dream…let us not pass it off as “happenstance”. I grew up in a country – Nigeria where I heard of such things and passed them off as ‘nonsense’. Why I ask where so many of the purported events at night? At times when people are meant to sleep?
The spirit as in The Presence of God is never tired. I for one had a ‘few’ minutes in my coma that was weeks long. Even my parents stated that my experience was near fatal. I for one awoke with the knowledge? that it was a “timeless” dream of a few hours. My challenge? Find a clock in your dream and watch it. See if you can ‘estimate’ time.
Yes, in the spirit realm awareness of ‘time’ with experience is very possible. But, to do it from scratch is incredibly difficult or next to impossible! Individuals ‘measure’ time and are able to estimate the period they are there. For many, a sense of ‘time’ is inert and can be used to judge periods.
This all sounds like phoney, I know. But check me on this:
In Science: A dream is a succession of images, ideas, emotions, and sensations that usually occur involuntarily in the mind during certain stages of sleep. The content and purpose of dreams are not fully understood, although they have been a topic of scientific, philosophical and religious interest throughout recorded history.
Find out how, when, and what we dream.
Have you ever woken up from a dream that was so vivid and lifelike that it actually seemed real? It’s such a surreal experience that it may make you wonder: What exactly is a dream, anyway? Scientists have long tried to figure that out. The basic definition is that dreams are subconscious imaginings that contain sounds, images, and other sensations while you sleep. Below, find out the answers to other frequently asked questions.
When Do You Dream?
Dreams happen most often during REM (rapid eye moment) sleep, which is the deepest stage of sleep. This stage makes up about 20 to 25 percent of adult sleep and occurs in intervals that can last anywhere from a few minutes to 30 minutes. You cycle through REM sleep a number of times during the night, and if you happen to wake up in the morning during that stage of sleep, a dream may seem fresher in your mind.
What Do You Dream?
Dreams can be about, well, anything at all. They can be magical and exhilarating, totally strange, or even horrifying (those could be called bad dreams, nightmares or night terrors). Dreams could include the most obvious individuals in your life—such as family members, friends, and pets—as well as people you’ve never seen before. They might take place in a familiar setting, like the office where you work. Or the setting might be a faraway location, such as the moon, or a fictional place, such as a main character’s home on a television show.
Ok! What does The book of His-story say? We have skirted on and in the scientific field. We started with defining what dreams are. Let us take a brief look at an incident in His-story
Now The Word of The LORD came unto Jonah the son of Amittai, saying, “Arise, go to Nineveh, that great city, and cry against it; for their wickedness is come up before me.”
How did this Word come? While he was wide awake working? If we take an avid thought to the events, we assume it was not during the day. Did Jonah hear a Voice? I will state that notably few hear an audible sound.
» Like the sound of many waters (Ezekiel 43:2; Revelation 1:15; 14:2; 19:6).
» Like the sound of very loud thunder (Job 40:9; Psalm 29:3; 77:18; 104:7; Revelation 14:2).
» Like the sound of harps (Isaiah 30:31-32; Revelation 14:2).
» Like the sound of trumpets (Exodus 19:16, 19; Hebrews 12:19; Revelation 1:10; 4:1).
Down through man’s His-story, a few people have indeed heard God’s voice. God spoke directly to Adam and Eve (Genesis 3:8), to Cain (Genesis 4:6), to Abraham (Genesis 12:1-3; 17:1-2), to Jacob (Genesis 28:13-15; 32:26-29), to Moses (Exodus 3:4; 19:19), to Elijah (I Kings 19:9, 11-12) and others. In almost every case, Old Testament and New, it was the voice of Jesus Christ—the Logos, the Spokesman, the Word of God—that they heard.
Almost? Were there any instances when a human being heard the voice of God the Father? Did not Jesus say, “And the Father himself, who sent Me, has testified of me. You have neither heard His voice at any time, nor seen His form” (John 5:37)?
Yes, He did. Well, then, that seems quite clear! If Jesus says no one has ever heard the voice of God the Father, I may as well close this article right here. But wait! Does this scripture really say that? Does Jesus actually mean that the Father’s voice has never been heard by human ears?
We need to take a closer look at this subject of God’s voice, specifically the voice of God the Father. Let us determine if the Bible really shows that no human being has ever heard the sound of the Father’s voice in the past, and whether we have any promise of hearing it in the future.
Examining John 5:37
Let us consider John 5:37 a bit more carefully:
“And the Father Himself, who sent Me, has testified of me. You have neither heard His voice at any time, nor seen His form.”
Who is Jesus addressing in this context? To whom does He refer as “You”? Verses 16 and 18 give the answer:
For this reason the Jews persecuted Jesus, and sought to kill Him, because He had done these things on the Sabbath. . . . Therefore the Jews sought all the more to kill Him, because He not only broke the Sabbath, but also said that God was His Father, making Himself equal with God.
Jesus is not talking to or about mankind in general. Nor is He talking to His disciples, friends, and followers, though undoubtedly some of them are with Him. He is addressing a gathering of Jews, some of whom are trying to kill Him because He had called God His Father.
Throughout His discourse, Jesus is actually introducing and revealing God the Father to them. The Jews had not known God the Father previously. They and their forefathers knew Yahweh to some limited extent, but not God the Father. All of their dealings with God had been through the Logos, who became Jesus Christ. They had never seen the Father, and they had never heard His voice.
Notice that Jesus does not say, “No man has ever heard my Father’s voice, nor ever will.” Taking this verse at its face value, all it says is that the Jews had had no experience with the Father. If they would believe the Son’s words, however, they could have a relationship with the Father (verse 38; 8:19; 14:6-7, 20-23; 16:27; 17:20-26).
Who Heard the Father’s Voice?
In the three gospel accounts of the transfiguration of Jesus in Matthew 17, Mark 9, and Luke 9, Peter, James, and John heard a voice say, “This is My beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased. Hear him!” (Matthew 17:5). Simple logic tells us that this was the voice of God the Father. It could not have been an angel, or the words would be a lie!
Although we can accept these gospel accounts as accurate records of what happened, Matthew, Mark, and Luke were not present during the transfiguration. For a firsthand account we must look to Peter, who, along with James and John, was actually there:
For we did not follow cunningly devised fables when we made known to you the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, but were eyewitnesses of His majesty. For He received from God the Father honor and glory when such a voice came to Him from the Excellent Glory: “This is My beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.” And we heard this voice which came from heaven when we were with Him on the holy mountain. (II Peter 1:16-18)
Although Peter wrote these words around AD 66 or 67—almost forty years after the transfiguration occurred—his excitement about the experience was not dampened at all. But what did he, James, and John see, a glorified Jesus conversing with the ghosts of Moses and Elijah? No. What they saw was a vision of the future. They saw a vision of Jesus Christ in His glorified state in His Kingdom along with two of His resurrected servants, Moses and Elijah.
And what did the three amazed disciples hear? They heard the voice “from the Excellent Glory” (some translations render this phrase “the voice of majestic glory,” or better, “the voice of supreme glory”). This was not the voice of an angel but that of God the Father! Was it really the Father’s voice? Yes, this was the voice of supreme glory, a title that can apply only to the Sovereign God the Father. As stated before, since the voice refers to Jesus as “My Son,” it must have been Jesus’ heavenly Father speaking.
In Christ’s Final Days
The apostle John writes of another time when human beings heard the voice of God the Father:
“Now My soul is troubled, and what shall I say? ‘Father, save Me from this hour’? But for this purpose I came to this hour. Father, glorify Your name.” Then a voice came from heaven, saying, “I have both glorified it, and will glorify it again.” Therefore the people who stood by and heard it said that it had thundered. Others said, “An angel has spoken to him.” Jesus answered and said, “This voice did not come because of Me, but for your sake.” (John 12:27-30)
In this example, taking place shortly before Jesus’ suffering and death, a gathering of Greek visitors and probably some of His disciples are present (see verses 20-22). They all hear the voice. Jesus says the thunderous voice was made audible for the sake of His visitors. At such a troubled time, it was no doubt encouraging for Him as well.
Jesus speaks to His Father in the presence of the Greek visitors, and His Father audibly answers Him. Some compare the voice to the sound of thunder. Others think an angel has spoken to Jesus. Could it have been an angel speaking? No. The voice says that the Speaker had glorified His own name, so if it were any other being than the Father, this declaration would be false. Surely, the Father would not delegate the duty of glorifying His name even to an angel, especially at such a pivotal time.
In the Future
In the book of Revelation, we find many instances of voices of spirit beings during the end time. These examples include the voices of angels, of resurrected saints, of Jesus Christ, and of God the Father. For example:
Then I looked, and behold, a Lamb standing on Mount Zion, and with Him one hundred and forty-four thousand, having His Father’s name written on their foreheads. And I heard a voice from heaven, like the voice of many waters, and like the voice of loud thunder. And I heard the sound of harpists playing their harps. (Revelation 14:1-2)
Although it does not specifically say so, the wording strongly indicates that the voice mentioned here is that of the Father speaking at another pivotal time in world history: the day His Firstborn stands upon Mount Zion to meet His newly changed brothers and sisters. At the time this voice from heaven is heard, Jesus Christ—the Word of God and the Lord or Yahweh of the Old Testament—is on earth on Mount Zion.
» And behold, the glory of the God of Israel came from the way of the east. His voice was like the sound of many waters. . . .
» His feet were like fine brass, as if refined in a furnace, and His voice as the sound of many waters. . . .
» Have you an arm like God? Or can you thunder with a voice like His?
» The voice of the LORD is over the waters; the God of glory thunders. . . .
» The voice of Your thunder was in the whirlwind. . . .
» At Your rebuke they fled; at the voice of Your thunder they hastened away.
Finally, note Isaiah 30:31-32:
For through the voice of the LORD Assyria will be beaten down. . . . It will be with tambourines and harps. . . .
These proofs seem fairly conclusive that it is the Father’s voice described in Revelation 14:2.
Hearing God’s Word
What can we conclude from these examples? First, although infrequent, God the Father has spoken audibly and allowed humans to hear His voice. Second, when God the Father does allow human beings to hear His voice, a very important event is taking place. Third, although His humanly audible words are very few, they have great and very significant meaning.
Most importantly, however, are we hearing His voice? As far as we know, none of us have audibly heard the Father’s voice, but if He has called us, we have heard it spiritually (John 6:44). He speaks to us through His Son (John 8:28, 38, 40; 12:49-50; 17:8), as well as through His ministers (Acts 20:27; Romans 10:14-17; II Corinthians 2:17; II Timothy 4:2).
Are we hearing the truth? Are we following it? Answering “Yes!” to these questions is far more important to our salvation than hearing God’s voice with our ears. Jesus says in John 10:27, the verse Church of the Great God has chosen to place on its logo: “My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me.” As His disciples, this scripture should describe us.
The great voice of God! We can indeed look forward to the time when He moves His throne and headquarters to this earth—when we will probably hear His voice more frequently. We also excitedly anticipate the time—1,000 or perhaps 1,100 years sooner—when we will meet Jesus Christ on Mount Zion and hear for the very first time the mighty voice of God the Father! And even now, we can hear His voice in His Word and respond with love and obedience in preparation for those times.
Few hear an audible voice. Yes, there are occasions in His-story, but typically is in dreams.
The Word? This gets amazing. Do you read The Word? Does it ‘speak’ to you? Open your spirit.
First, ensure that it is ‘right’.
By ‘right’, I mean exactly what The Word teaches.
But Jonah rose up to flee (The Precense of The Lord Which is everywhere) unto Tarshish from The Presence of The LORD, and went down to Joppa; and he found a ship going to Tarshish: so he paid the fare thereof, and went down into it, to go with them unto Tarshish from the Presence of The LORD.
I am led to share ‘fact’. We with kids, may have told them a ‘story’ – bedtime or midday. It in essence is ‘minutes’ long. Even a novel! what is the longest you have read? Day’s long? weeks or even months! I was led to understand that we are a ‘segment’ of what we have termed His-story. We are an experinment in much lesser god’s than the Essence of our Father in Heaven.
All of a susudden channels of understanding and revelation are opened up!
We have termed it His-story. A few ‘minutes’ in God’s sight. Now, the true meaning of a “Thousand years being as a day, are crystal clear.
1. We aarell created with our part to play in His-story. We are created for a purpose with a reason. Yours? We have discussed this as lib. You aarewho you are, where you are for a reason.
Here, let us back up a tad! Jonah was created for a reason! Yes, it was known well before his creation that he would serve The LORD, which he did. He was sent to Nineveh were he was certain to be killed. He ran from The Presence of The Lord, not only with fear of whuld happen to him; but with detest for a people. Remember Sodom and Gomorrah?
In Ezekiel 16:48–50, God compares Jerusalem to Sodom, saying “Sodom never did what you and your daughters have done.” He explains that the sin of Sodom was that “She and her daughters were arrogant, overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy. They were haughty and did detestable things before Me.”
There was a period before the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah that Abraham was very “hu-Man”and sought The very Essence of God:
In this instance we read of of the presence of God, what does this mean? Do you remember when God through an angel told Abraham to stay his hand prior to Isaac? The Voice of God is AWESOME!!! God’s Presence is Unimaginable!!!
In Judaism bat kol or bat ḳōl is a “heavenly or divine voice which proclaims God’s will or judgment.” It signifies the ruach ha-kodesh or serves as a metonym for God; “but it differed essentially from the Prophets”, though these were delegates or mouthpieces of ruaḥ ha-kodesh.
John 10:27 – My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:
Romans 10:17 – So then faith [cometh] by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.
Jeremiah 33:3 – Call unto me, and I will answer thee, and shew thee great and mighty things, which thou knowest not.
John 8:47 – He that is of God heareth God’s words: ye therefore hear [them] not, because ye are not of God.
Isaiah 30:21 – And thine ears shall hear a word behind thee, saying, This [is] the way, walk ye in it, when ye turn to the right hand, and when ye turn to the left.
John 16:13 – Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, [that] shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.
Luke 11:28 – But he said, Yea rather, blessed [are] they that hear the word of God, and keep it.
Hebrews 4:12 – For the word of God [is] quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and [is] a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.
John 6:63 – It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, [they] are spirit, and [they] are life.
2 Timothy 3:16-17 – All scripture [is] given by inspiration of God, and [is] profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
John 14:26 – But the Comforter, [which is] the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.
Hebrews 2:1 – Therefore we ought to give the more earnest heed to the things which we have heard, lest at any time we should let [them] slip.
1 Kings 19:11-13 – And he said, Go forth, and stand upon the mount before the LORD. And, behold, the LORD passed by, and a great and strong wind rent the mountains, and brake in pieces the rocks before the LORD; [but] the LORD [was] not in the wind: and after the wind an earthquake; [but] the LORD [was] not in the earthqu.
Romans 8:14 – For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.
So, we can discern The Voice of God.
Here, we have shared about knowing and listening to and for The Voice of God.
Back to our factual rendition of His-story
On the boat to Tarshish, Then were the men exceedingly afraid, and said unto him. Why hast thou done this? For the men knew that he fled from the presence of the LORD, because he had told the Then said they unto him, What shall we do unto thee, that the sea may be calm unto us? for the sea wrought, and was tempestuous. And he said unto them, Take me up, and cast me forth into the sea; so shall the sea be calm unto you: for I know that for my sake this great tempest is upon you Then the men feared the LORD exceedingly, and offered a sacrifice unto the LORD, and made vows.
What condition was Jonah inon arriving in Nineveh? A half digested Man. Preaching The Word? A fearful sight, so the king proclaimed a fast.
“When Jonah’s warning reached the king of Nineveh, he rose from his throne, took off his royal robes, covered himself with sackcloth and sat down in the dust.”
Again, this what Jonah’s appearance wrought! As opposed to a “healthu” looking ‘messenger’s speaking of doom in a city of plenty. We tread back to our starting point. We are all created for a reason, found yours?
I am aware this sounds “off the chart”. But, I was moved to share this. Think! Why was The King of this world born in a manger?
ALL we are asked to do is believeinvou spirit that God Who is Love, sent a Part of God – The Word, to not of His own will, but The will of The Father, standing in for you and I.
“For I have come down from Heaven not to do My Will but to do The Will of God Who sent Me.”
“Who, being in very nature God, did not consider equality with God something to be used to His own advantage;”
Here let me point out something I recieved! Are your words yours? From whom have they come? What is of you is a part of you, no?
God’s Word Created the seen and the unseen. Part of The Story of God. This is but for a brief ‘microsecond The Existence of God. We in Science attempt to explain so much.
The cause of the mass extinction that marks the end of the Cretaceous and the beginning of the Paleogene is a scientific mystery. The extinction wiped out the dinosaurs while most mammals, turtles, crocodiles, salamanders, and frogs survived. Birds escaped.
A mystery! This is statd in Science, a mystery? A lot needs to be explained. So, our question is “did dinosaurs exist in the time of Man?”
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Then what about the dinosaurs? In light of what we read in Genesis, what is the real sequence of events regarding these creatures? If God created dinosaurs, why aren’t they mentioned in the Bible? Was man on earth at the same time as the dinosaurs?
Many people don’t realize that paleontology (the study of past geological ages based primarily on the study of fossils) is a relatively new science. In fact, the concept of “dinosaurs” only surfaced in its present form less than 180 years ago. Prior to that, anyone who found a large fossilized bone assumed it came from an elephant, dragon or giant. It wasn’t until 1841 that English scientist Richard Owens suggested that the group of “newly discovered” animals be called “dinosaurs” (meaning, “terrible lizards”). Therefore, we shouldn’t expect to see dinosaurs in the Bible, but we should expect to see descriptions of “dragons” and other large creatures. In fact, we do!
A search for the word “dragon” in the King James Version (KJV) of the Bible produces 34 separate matches across 10 different books written between approximately 2000 BC and 90 AD. The word “dragon” ( Hebrew: tannin) is used throughout the Old Testament, and most directly translates as “sea or land monsters.” Interestingly, Genesis 1:21 describes God’s creation of sea dragons (tannin) on the 5th day. Today’s Bible translations use the following terms instead: “great whales” (KJV), “the great creatures of the sea” (NIV), “the great sea monsters” (NASB), and “great sea creatures” (NLT, NKJV). However, the original Hebrew is more descriptive of the sea-going dinosaurs we now see in numerous museums throughout the world. Even more dramatic is the Book of Job, where the author describes the great land creature, Behemoth (Job 40), and the great water creature, Leviathan (Job 41). Although the latest Bible translations use the words elephant, hippo or crocodile instead of Behemoth and Leviathan, the original Hebrew and the context of the descriptions do not allow for these interpretations.
Descriptions of dinosaur-like creatures are nearly universal throughout the world’s ancient cultures. Where did this global concept originate? How did societies throughout the world describe, record, draw, etch, sew and carve such creatures in such uniformity, if they did not witness these creatures during their lifetimes? Of course, these accounts are by no means limited to the Bible. Dragon accounts from China, Europe, the Middle East, and Latin America share similar accounts of dinosaur-like beasts. Records of Marco Polo in China show that the royal house kept dragons for ceremonies, and records of the Greek historian Herodotus and the Jewish historian Josephus describe flying reptiles in ancient Egypt and Arabia. In many cultures it was a great honor to kill these creatures. There are numerous records of warriors killing great beasts in order to establish credibility in a village. Gilgamesh, Fafnir, Beowulf and other famous legends, including the mythology of Egypt, Greece and Rome, provide specific descriptions of dragons and other dinosaur-like creatures.
Dinosaurs are depicted on numerous objects of ancient art throughout the world. Dinosaur-like creatures are featured on Babylonian landmarks, Roman mosaics, Asian pottery and royal robes, Egyptian burial shrouds and government seals, Peruvian burial stones and tapestries, Mayan sculptures, Aboriginal and Native American petroglyphs (carved rock drawings), and many other pieces of ceremonial art throughout ancient cultures. If dinosaurs supposedly went extinct at least 50 million years ago, how did ancient man of the last few thousand years precisely and uniformly depict them? The Bible is clear — sea creatures were created by God on Day 5 and land creatures were created by God on Day 6. These creatures included dinosaurs, which co-existed with man until they died off for various reasons, including most dramatically, the worldwide flood of Noah.
Again, we could trail off on this. But we would rather remain focused.